http://www.dailynews.com/ci_21983668.
just its existence makes me mad though, so i don't know if i could contain my rage.
it might just be too much for me to handle.
Engleitner witnessed Nazi atrocities and has now found comfort in his old age by sitting in a wheelchair as an almost silent Watchtoer shill.
He ignores the towering falsity of The WATCHTOWER and the pedophile atrocities that The WATCHTOWER is perpetrating TODAY.
Sorry, he's an old fool who doesn't deserve admiration or respect. Find a better hero.
in thinking about my own life, i think i can safely trace most of my excluded outcast childhood to jesus words in the bible to: "remain no part of the world".
sure the wts in their legalistic thinking probably mis-applied this text, but it's still a prominent belief for other groups like the amish too.. no doubt many of us ex witnesses have issues with our childhood, who doesn't, right?
still, that admonition from jesus in my opinion has so much wrong with it.
Actually, I think this is VERY GOOD advice and I intend to appropriate it into my series of secular atheist right-thinking sermons.
We exist in THIS space at THIS time. We are unavoidably, by virtue of our existence, PART of this world.
As individuals we have very little power to change much about this world, but through the news media we are continually barraged with "news" - almost never happy news but news about new terrors, new outrages, new atrocities about which we can do nothing.
The solution, my friends, is to take a "news purge diet." For five days, listen to NO news and thereafter restrict your exposure to the news as much as you possibly can.
While doing this, try to increase your awareness of your local and virtually local environment. ACT locally to improve the situation of those near you.
By doing this you can be in the world but no part of the world.
Hail Eris!
in another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.
i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.
just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..
Feel better soon, Grace.
The girl is named "Sophia," which means "wisdom." She also seems to be mute.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/castro-brothers-spend-night-jail-article-1.1338131#ixzz2sjzrxozd.
I think Ariel Castro might be an elder soon: he really manifests the fruitage of The WATCHTOWER.
good on ya, chuck!.
see: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/07/us/ohio-cleveland-ramsey/index.html.
listen: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50146346n.
I though that before someone kicks me in the teeth for lauding Charles' action, I will point out that the news is now uncovering Charles' past and his run-ins with the law. I feel that the man's past flaws do not detract from what he did earlier this week.
When circumstances put the choice on Charles to ACT or do nothing, he did the right thing!
i seldom post here, though i read the posts here daily.
i spend most of my time just growing older.
(i became a witness in 1948, so you can guess my age.
Maybe I should have used a term other than "black sheep," or expanded it to explain that I ejoyed looking into the histories of men of conscience who were the forefathers of the great crowd of apostates today. I will (of course!) enjoy reading about the Watchtower sociopaths and bullies, but the Watchtower was also a place where intelligene and conscience were often not welcome.
this is something that i feel rather good about and i wanted to share it with you.. about seven years ago, a young man from spain who selected the username "maplaza" posted a message asking for any help we could offer concerning the history of an early follower of "pastor" russell named m. l. mcphail.
i was one of several who offered to assist "maplaza".. see: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/104735/1/information-about-m-l-mcphail.
just this morning i received an email from maplaza in which he reports that his doctoral thesis was submitted and received the highest mark.. all of maplaza's work was done in spanish, in which i am far from fluent - but if you are fluent in spanish or if you are interested in watchtower history and willing to work a bit, i think you might enjoy this.. you can download maplaza's dissertation here: http://hdl.handle.net/10261/75500.
This is something that I feel rather good about and I wanted to share it with you.
About seven years ago, a young man from Spain who selected the username "maplaza" posted a message asking for any help we could offer concerning the history of an early follower of "Pastor" Russell named M. L. McPhail. I was one of several who offered to assist "maplaza".
See: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/104735/1/Information-about-M-L-McPhail
Just this morning I received an email from maplaza in which he reports that his doctoral thesis was submitted and received the highest mark.
All of maplaza's work was done in Spanish, in which I am far from fluent - but if you are fluent in Spanish or if you are interested in Watchtower history and willing to work a bit, I think you might enjoy this.
You can download maplaza's dissertation here: http://hdl.handle.net/10261/75500
Best of all, I think is that maplaza completed his DOCTORAL THESIS! This is an excellent and highly commendable accomplishment.
i seldom post here, though i read the posts here daily.
i spend most of my time just growing older.
(i became a witness in 1948, so you can guess my age.
Hi, Old Goat, and welcome! I know there are several here who may share your interest in the story of the people behind the WTB&TS.
Personally, I am more interested in the "black sheep" of Watchtower history and the invisible women of the Watchtower, a very difficult area to research.
I have done some work looking into the history of W. E. van Amburgh, Fred Robison, Merlin Fogh and M. L. McPhail and have greatly appreciated the work others here have done looking into the affairs of Rutherford and his family and the treatment Olin Moyle received for having a conscience, among others.
I will follow your link and offer encouragement to the writers. Thanks!
im very sad, upset and disappointed all at the same time.
why couldnt i just stay away from this dam forum and live my life and blindly dedicated it to the borg.
now i know ttatt, i cant ignore all the facts and all the stories of the great people in this forum.
Each one of us here have gone through what you are going through to a greater or lesser degree, and each has handled it, some better than others.
Maybe the next issue of The WATCHTOWER, or the next book released at a district Assembly, or the next dazzling revelation of "new light", will be just what you need to hang on.
Did you laugh at that? I hope you did.
Try to keep your sense of humor as you watch the Dubs around you enthusiastically applying themselves to something that is meaningless.
The greater the title: Brother, Pioneer, MS, Elder, Circuit Servant, District Servant, Bethelite, GB member, etc., the greater the fool who wears that title.
